Global CISO Forum Podcast Episode 3: Swimming with Sharks: Don’t Be the Bait

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In an in-depth interview, VP of Enterprise Security & Architecture at Intersec Worldwide Todd Bell talks about how CISOs need to become better business managers.

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...Upper level executives don’t want to hear about the technical details of each security problem. Instead, they want to hear about how those problems could impact their business.

In an interview on the Global CISO Forum Podcast, Todd Bell, VP of Enterprise Security & Architecture at Intersec Worldwide, talks about his career path as a CIO before he was a CISO, giving him a different perspective on some of the shortcomings he sees in other infosec executives. Bell sees a lot of the conflict that is common between IT departments and security executives coming down to CISOs not understanding the business impacts of the security initiatives they decide to pursue.

Another thing he thinks the infosec industry needs is more measurable indicators. He sees KPIs as being key to communicating infosec issues to the C-Suite because upper level executives don’t want to hear about the technical details of each security problem. Instead, they want to hear about how those problems could impact their business. By being clear about probability and impact, Bell thinks CISOs could create more buy-in from other executives, thereby better protecting their organizations. He ultimately sees the CISO role as “help(ing) to facilitate good risk decisions for the CEO.”

Later in the interview, Bell talks about mentoring CISOs to earn the respect of the other C-Suite executives by teaching them to speak the same language as executives as well as turning their departments into profit centers that contribute to the business’ bottom line, saying "if there's going to be an earning's miss in your company, they are going to hit cyber security because it's not making money."

Other advice Bell has for CISOs is “Get out of your department, go talk to other departments.” He believes that CISOs who don’t fully understand their business—or who miss blind spots that could potentially turn into disastrous results for security—are misinformed because they keep themselves isolated or have tunnel vision on the departments they think are the important ones for security.

Podcasts can be downloaded on the EC-Council CISO site or via iTunes. For more information or to request a guest spot on the Global CISO Forum Podcast, please contact amber(dot)williams(at)eccouncil(dot)org.

About the EC-Council CISO Program:
EC-Council’s CISO Program has three components: CISO Events, the Certified CISO (C|CISO), and CISO Resources – a repository for white papers, podcasts, webinars and articles geared toward a CISO crowd. EC-Council’s CISO Events are invitation only and geared specifically for high-level, executive information security professionals. Combining keynotes with panel discussions, the events are opportunities for CISOs from around the world to hash out the trends and challenges of information security among their peers. The C|CISO is a certification recognizing an individual’s cumulative experience and expertise in executive information security management. Overseen by a board of seasoned and distinguished professionals, the C|CISO Program has certified over 1,100 IS executives from around the world.

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